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3.5
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3 Stars
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2 Stars
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1 Stars
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Conditions
2.8
Value
4.0
Layout
0
Friendliness
4.3
Pace
3.3
Amenities
3.6
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Traditional
Par 71
Length 7013 yards
Slope 129
Rating 72.9

Editor's Note: Course closed for business in 2015.

Course Details

Year Built 1957
Golf Season Year round

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Caddies No
Golf School Academy Yes
Golf Simulator No
Teaching Pro Yes
Indoor Practice No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No

Food & Beverage

Snacks

Reviews

3.5
342 Reviews (342)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 44
Patio Dining 44
Brunch 20
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 77
Elevation Changes 47
Water Hazards 47
This course/club is great for:
Locals 68
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 61
Advanced Golfers 35
This Course's Location is:
Convenient to the City 87
Near the Airport 52
Worth the Drive 38

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Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Fair weather
Used cart

Not an easy course but definitly worth playing

If you miss the fairway you could be in a lot of trouble. Easy to lose balls again if you are off the fairway's. Course is very well marked with hole information at the tee box's so you are never second guessing where you are driving the ball. Fun course for intermediate and better golfer. Beginner golfer will not enjoy this course. A lot of target golf!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 78
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Nice course

This course is right up against South Mountain and also has some views of downtown Phoenix. It's a nice course with a good design. The greens were aerated earlier in the week, but they rolled decently. Got a good Hot Deal on GolfNow.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 7
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Dry

Course was dry and run down. Greens were in terrible condition.

Conditions Poor
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Great views of down town Phoenix

We played the blue tee, 7013 - so bring the big stick. It was a little windy making it tough on some holes.
The greens need more work, some were hard and most were ok. not great.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 25+
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

The course has great features

Enjoyed playing all 18 holes. The fairways were great and in good condition. The only negative thing is the greens were sandy. Will definitely play there again.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Average weather
Used cart

Sad to see how the course has deteriorated

Vistal, previously Thunderbird was once one of the better courses in the valley. For the past few years, the course owners have not been spending much on maintaining the facility. Many of the bunkers have been removed. The remaining ones are in horrible shape. The fairways are dry and rock hard. But the worst deterioration has occurred on the greens. They are in abysmal shape - huge bare spots and dying grass everywhere. It looks like they have not been rolled for years. The owners of the property are just spending the minimal amount to maintain the facility while they wait for the housing market to turn around, then they are going to turn the property into another residential development. This is a shame, because the course has an interestng layout and beautiful views of South Mountain and the valley. I hate to say it, but I have probably played my last round at Vistal.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Bad greens

If you like putting on the fairway, then this is the course for you.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 40
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

5/15/2014

The views were, as usual, fantastic! The greens were in pretty bad shape and extremely slow, which is why I didn't give the best ratings. Hopefully, they're just gearing up for the summer.

Conditions Fair
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 19
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Worth checking out

Course was in decent condition, a little dry as to be expected in this area. Some interesting holes and great views.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Fun course however challenging

Took a while to figure out the greens, somewhat fast. Bunkers need more sand since they're deep bunkers difficult to get under the ball. Loved the course and we will come back. The staff was fantastic.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 50
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good value

Course is well worth the money. Enjoyable layout with plenty of chances for birdie.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

great course, value and fun

great time had by all...
course was very dry...badly needed water
greens a little beat up!

Conditions Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 244
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Arizona Advisor
Verified Purchaser
Top 25 Contributor
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Great Course, Lousy Greens

I have played this course before and enjoyed the layout of the course, but the greens were very sketchy that time. I returned this time, about a month and one-half later and the greens have seen no improvement. I don't know what is going on with the grounds management, but the course needs better watering. Fairways and greens both seemed parched. Apart from these conditions, the course has a very nice layout to it and presents a very good challenge.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

OK Course

Time on my hands and wanted to try a course on the West side of Phoenix. Course was in good shape an a fun track to play.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Greens were a little rough with dead patches of weeds and grass

Course plays well with challenging holes. Personal were very accommodating with fresh baked free cookies at the clubhouse. We did not like the $9.32 fee charged by Golfnow. We could have set up the tee-time through the phone with no extra charge!

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Walked

the course Layout is great

The course was going thru it's transition from winter rye to summer Bermuda so the greens were a bit rough but this course is very challenging and I love that layout. It's all you want.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Not worth

Greens and bunkers were horrible. Round took over 5 hours and never saw a ranger. Cheapest course for a reason

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 19
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

This course has been in better shape

Beautiful day. Vistal can be a great golf course. Wonderful facilities, great practice areas, and excellent staff. The course maintenance is very disappointing. The tee boxes are above average neatly maintained. Greens are firm and fast but fair. Fairways are very disappointing, several bare spots. For this time of year in this area, for the price it should be better maintained. I booked the tee time for my group and was embarrassed by the course conditions. I had to apologize to my group.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Fair weather
Used cart

i have always liked the course when in good condition

the staff is very good and helpful.
but the course really lacks just a little bit of water, very dry , greens have green dye over all the bare spots. the grass on the greens is crusty. even if you hit on the front of green the ball will roll over the back. i found myself playing one club short in order to land in front of green to allow for added roll. no ranger , i was a single behind a twosome behind a threesome who would not allow them to play thru. we were out there for over 5 hours waited on every shot it was sad, but at least i got to finish my book.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 207
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Top 50 Contributor
Previously Played
Used cart

Lousy greens

Good pace
Conditions ok
Greens crusty. They don't hold line.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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